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These are the actual file name extensions the player can read. For example, the player will see and display a file called ''abc.jpg'', but if you rename it to ''jpg.abc'' it will become invisible to the player and you will not be able to display it. ".abc" is not a supported file name extension.
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These are the actual file name extensions the player can read. For example, the player will see and display a file called ''abc.jpg'', but if you rename it to ''jpg.abc'' it will become invisible to the player and you will not be able to display it. ".abc" is not a supported file name extension. It is important to note that many of these filetypes are ''container'' formats, which means that they can contain a variety of codecs, not all of which are supported.
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'''Video Files'''
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; width: auto"
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|- style="background:#e0e0e0;"
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! Format Name
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! File Extension
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! Limits
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! Disc playback?
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! USB/eSata playback?
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! *DLNA playback?
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|-
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! AVI
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| .avi
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|
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| No
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|-
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! MKV
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| .mkv
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| Limited support for L5.1 and above
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| Yes
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|-
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! DIVX
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| .divx
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|
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| No
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|-
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! XVID
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| .avi
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|
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| No
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|-
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! MPEG
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| .mpg, .mpeg
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|
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| Yes
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|-
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! DAT
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| .dat
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|
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| Yes
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|-
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! VOB
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| .vob
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|
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| Yes
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|-
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! AVCHD
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| /AVCHD
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|
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| No
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|-
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! TS
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| .ts
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|
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| No
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| No
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| Yes
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|-
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! MPEG-PS
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| .mpg
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|
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| Yes
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|-
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! MTS
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| .mts
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|
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| No
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| No
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| Yes
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|-
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! M2TS / M2T
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| .m2ts, .m2t
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|
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| No
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| No
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| Yes
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|}
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'''Audio Files'''
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; width: auto"
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|- style="background:#e0e0e0;"
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! Format Name
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! File Extension
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! Audio Codec
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! Audio bitrate limit
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! Disc playback?
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! USB/eSata playback?
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! *DLNA playback?
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|-
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! MP3
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| .mp3
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| MP1, MP2, MP3
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| Bitrate: 8Kbps ~ 320Kbps <br>Support MP3 ID3 tag information
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| Yes
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! WMA
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| .wma
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| Windows Media Audio 7, 8, 9
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| Sample rate: 32K, 44.1K, 48K  <br>Bitrate: 32Kbps ~ 192Kbps
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| Yes
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|-
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! LPCM
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| .pcm
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|
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|
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| No
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| No
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| Yes
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|-
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! MKA
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| .mka
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| MP2, MP3, AC3, <br>AAC, DTS, PCM, WMA
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|
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| No
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|}
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'''Image Files'''
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; width: auto"
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|- style="background:#e0e0e0;"
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! Format Name
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! File Extension
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! Disc playback?
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! USB/eSata playback?
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! *DLNA playback?
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|-
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! JPEG
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| .jpg
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| Yes
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|-
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! PNG
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| .png
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| Yes
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|-
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! GIF
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| .gif
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| No
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|-
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! Active GIF
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| .gif
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| No
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|-
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! Picture CD
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| ./
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| Yes
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| No
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| No
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|}
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'''Subtitle Files'''
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; width: auto"
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|- style="background:#e0e0e0;"
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! Format Name
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! Limit
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! Disc playback?
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! USB/eSata playback?
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! *DLNA playback?
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|-
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! srt <br>sub <br>txt <br>smi <br>ssa <br>ass <br>idx+sub
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| No support for Unicode and UTF-8 codec
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| Yes
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| Yes
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| No
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|-
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! More details
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| .mpeg and .mpg video files cannot load idx+sub subtitle  <br>Cannot support external subtitles via DLNA  <br>The subtitle support also depends on the DLNA server's capability
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|
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|
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|
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|}
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''' * DLNA playback also depends on the DLNA server's capability.'''
  
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These file types are currently supported:
 
  
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* avi
 
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* divx
 
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* gif
 
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* jpg
 
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* mkv
 
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* mp3
 
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* mpg
 
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* png
 
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* vob
 
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* wma
 
  
 
These file types are '''not''' currently supported:
 
These file types are '''not''' currently supported:
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There is also a [http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16435118#post16435118 comparison of media file test results] for several OPPO players.
 
There is also a [http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16435118#post16435118 comparison of media file test results] for several OPPO players.
  
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== What are the supported media file containers?==
 
== What are the supported media file containers?==
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Interleave AVI] (Audio Video Interleave)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Interleave AVI] (Audio Video Interleave)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DivX_Media_Format DIVX Media Format]
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DivX_Media_Format DIVX Media Format]
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska MKV] (Matroska)
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska MKV] (Matroska, both .mkv and .mka)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-1 MPG] (MPEG-1)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-1 MPG] (MPEG-1)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VOB VOB] (Video Object)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VOB VOB] (Video Object)
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AVI (or MKV or DIVX) are the type of container. They are supported. But the video inside the container must be of a supported video codec or you won't get any video. The audio inside the container must be of a supported audio codec or you won't get any audio.
 
AVI (or MKV or DIVX) are the type of container. They are supported. But the video inside the container must be of a supported video codec or you won't get any video. The audio inside the container must be of a supported audio codec or you won't get any audio.
  
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== What are the supported media file video codecs?==
 
== What are the supported media file video codecs?==
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Here are some utilities that will sort the files on a USB FAT device correctly ('''use at your own risk! make backups first!'''):
 
Here are some utilities that will sort the files on a USB FAT device correctly ('''use at your own risk! make backups first!'''):
  
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* [http://fatsort.berlios.de/ fatsort] (linix)
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* [http://fatsort.berlios.de/ fatsort] (Linux)
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* [http://www.jetman.dircon.co.uk/software/foldersort.html foldersort] (windows)
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* Foldersort] (windows)
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* (others? Send me your [mailto:wmcclain@watershade.net?Subject=OPPO%20BDP-83%20FAQ comments]).
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== Are data discs with long file names supported?==
 
== Are data discs with long file names supported?==
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* For a disc created with ISO9660 version 2 ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso9660#ISO_9660:1999 ISO-9660:1999]) the player will show 207 characters of directory names and 120 characters of file names (by scrolling).
 
* For a disc created with ISO9660 version 2 ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso9660#ISO_9660:1999 ISO-9660:1999]) the player will show 207 characters of directory names and 120 characters of file names (by scrolling).
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* A disc created with the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joliet_(file_system) joliet] long file name extension will show 103 characters of directory and file names (by scrolling). The file name limit is actually 99 because you need 4 characters for the "." + extention.
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* A disc created with the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joliet_(file_system) joliet] long file name extension will show 103 characters of directory and file names (by scrolling). The file name limit is actually 99 because you need 4 characters for the "." + extension.
  
 
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== Large file sizes (above 4Gb)? ==
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Are there any plans, such as via a firmware upgrade, to support a filesystem (such as NTFS, or UFS, or EXT2 -- anything) in your USB-readers, that would allow files larger than 4Gb? Some of our HD travel videos are very big and I'm loath cut them. This is also the single [http://www.amazon.com/review/R3BSITJ6ABCWJV/zhopa negative point] among Amazon's reviews of your players...
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It is my understanding, that your players run some sort of Unix inside (Linux? BSD?), so it ''should'' already be possible to use something better than [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAT32#FAT32 FAT] on the USB-media. Can you, please, confirm this?
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Player uses a mini-OS shell for higher functions which are proprietary to our own operation. Player does not have a full OS required for emulation of Unix functions such as NTFS formatting. This is a limitation of the design of the player and can't be adjusted through a future firmware release.
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The way around this limitation is to use DLNA streaming. Your host device is responsible for filesystem compatibility - Nathaniel Plain
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: Of course, formatting and ''writing'' NTFS is not easy, but simply ''reading'' an already existing NTFS can not be very hard...
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:What DLNA-servers have you tested against? I already have [http://mediatomb.cc MediaTomb] configured (used to stream to an Archos-5 player as well as to a Windows computer), but my Sony Bravia TV, for example, refuses to work with it... Will your devices fare any better?
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:Thanks for the quick response. ''Mikhail''

Latest revision as of 14:38, 22 April 2013

Questions frequently asked at AVSForum about the BDP-83.

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What are the supported media file types?

These are the actual file name extensions the player can read. For example, the player will see and display a file called abc.jpg, but if you rename it to jpg.abc it will become invisible to the player and you will not be able to display it. ".abc" is not a supported file name extension. It is important to note that many of these filetypes are container formats, which means that they can contain a variety of codecs, not all of which are supported.

Video Files
Format Name File Extension Limits Disc playback? USB/eSata playback? *DLNA playback?
AVI .avi Yes Yes No
MKV .mkv Limited support for L5.1 and above Yes Yes Yes
DIVX .divx Yes Yes No
XVID .avi Yes Yes No
MPEG .mpg, .mpeg Yes Yes Yes
DAT .dat Yes Yes Yes
VOB .vob Yes Yes Yes
AVCHD /AVCHD Yes Yes No
TS .ts No No Yes
MPEG-PS .mpg Yes Yes Yes
MTS .mts No No Yes
M2TS / M2T .m2ts, .m2t No No Yes


Audio Files

Format Name File Extension Audio Codec Audio bitrate limit Disc playback? USB/eSata playback? *DLNA playback?
MP3 .mp3 MP1, MP2, MP3 Bitrate: 8Kbps ~ 320Kbps
Support MP3 ID3 tag information 		Yes Yes Yes
WMA .wma Windows Media Audio 7, 8, 9 Sample rate: 32K, 44.1K, 48K
Bitrate: 32Kbps ~ 192Kbps 		Yes Yes Yes
LPCM .pcm No No Yes
MKA .mka MP2, MP3, AC3,
AAC, DTS, PCM, WMA 		Yes Yes No


Image Files

Format Name File Extension Disc playback? USB/eSata playback? *DLNA playback?
JPEG .jpg Yes Yes Yes
PNG .png Yes Yes Yes
GIF .gif Yes Yes No
Active GIF .gif Yes Yes No
Picture CD ./ Yes No No


Subtitle Files

Format Name Limit Disc playback? USB/eSata playback? *DLNA playback?
srt
sub
txt
smi
ssa
ass
idx+sub 		No support for Unicode and UTF-8 codec Yes Yes No
More details .mpeg and .mpg video files cannot load idx+sub subtitle
Cannot support external subtitles via DLNA
The subtitle support also depends on the DLNA server's capability


* DLNA playback also depends on the DLNA server's capability.


These file types are not currently supported:

  • 3gp
  • ac3
  • bmp
  • dts
  • fla
  • flv
  • m4v
  • mlp
  • mov
  • mp4
  • mpc
  • m2ts (except in AVCHD directories)
  • ogg
  • ogm
  • tif
  • ts
  • pcx
  • wav
  • wmv

Most of my testing was done with the downloadable divxtest.com disc. For more detail, see the results of the divxtest.com disc.

There is also a comparison of media file test results for several OPPO players.

What are the supported media file containers?

See:

What is the difference between a container and a codec?

A container is a file, an envelope to hold audio and video data. The audio and video is encoded by a standard codec, a program or format.

People ask "I thought AVI (or MKV or DIVX...) was supported. Why won't my file play?"

AVI (or MKV or DIVX) are the type of container. They are supported. But the video inside the container must be of a supported video codec or you won't get any video. The audio inside the container must be of a supported audio codec or you won't get any audio.

What are the supported media file video codecs?

See:

What are the supported media file audio codecs?

  • AC3 (Dolby Digital)
  • AAC (Advanced Audio Coding) (not HE-AAC)
  • DTS (Digital Theater System)
  • LPCM (Linear pulse code modulation)
  • MP1 (MPEG-1 Audio Layer I)
  • MP2 (MPEG-1 Audio Layer II)
  • MP3 (MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3)
  • WMA (Windows Media Audio) (not WMA Pro, Lossless or Voice)
See:

Is there a maximum number of media files the player can see?

Previous OPPO Digital players had a limit on the number of media files they could see on disc or USB storage. I don't know if there is a limit on this player, but if so it is much larger. I have been told that media with "thousands" of files have been tested.

Does it play high-definition divx/xvid and mpeg files?

Yes. For more detail, see the results of the divxtest.com disc.

Is AVCHD video supported?

Yes, on both disc and USB. The AVCHD directory name must be all capital letters as shown, but can be within any subdirectory, meaning you can have a collection of AVCHD directories on one disc or USB device. See the directory layout in the AVCHD wiki article.

Does it support .iso disc images as data files?

No. The chip maker balked at this due to copy protection concerns. Apparently "iso" means "illegal content" to the industry.

How do I return to the browser in the same folder when playing a video file?

As shown in the manual (Media File Playback / Playing Movie Files), press Stop twice.

Why don't all media video files show attributes in the browser?

For .avi containers the browser will show:
  • time
  • resolution
  • frame rate
  • format
...but for other container types it shows nothing. I don't know why, but presume each container type has it's own API and development for each type has to be prioritized.

Why are media file names not sorted alphabetically?

It's a bug. Files are shown in their physical ordering on the device, which is usually their creation order. Some mp3 players and other devices exhibit the same non-sorting behavior. Here are some utilities that will sort the files on a USB FAT device correctly (use at your own risk! make backups first!):
  • fatsort (Linux)
  • Foldersort] (windows)

Are data discs with long file names supported?

Yes, with some restrictions.
  • For a disc created with ISO9660 version 2 (ISO-9660:1999) the player will show 207 characters of directory names and 120 characters of file names (by scrolling).
  • A disc created with the joliet long file name extension will show 103 characters of directory and file names (by scrolling). The file name limit is actually 99 because you need 4 characters for the "." + extension.

Note

Regarding the joliet long file name extension, the Linux documentation says:

Allow Joliet filenames to be up to 103 Unicode characters, instead of 64. This breaks the Joliet specification, but appears to work. Use with caution.

Are DVD directory structures on USB devices supported?

No. Individual .vob files are supported but DVD directory structure is not, meaning the supporting information found in the .ifo files is missing. When playing .vob files:
  • there are no chapters
  • there may be no total time or time remaining
  • subtitles can be strangely colored
  • transition between .vob files will not be seamless

Can the player be used as a media server?

No, not really. It is nice that the player supports USB devices and some containers and codecs, but for a media server you would want:
  • files larger than 4GB
  • .iso files
  • DVD directory structures
  • more containers and codecs
  • network devices
  • ...and no doubt other things

Large file sizes (above 4Gb)?

Are there any plans, such as via a firmware upgrade, to support a filesystem (such as NTFS, or UFS, or EXT2 -- anything) in your USB-readers, that would allow files larger than 4Gb? Some of our HD travel videos are very big and I'm loath cut them. This is also the single negative point among Amazon's reviews of your players...

It is my understanding, that your players run some sort of Unix inside (Linux? BSD?), so it should already be possible to use something better than FAT on the USB-media. Can you, please, confirm this?

Player uses a mini-OS shell for higher functions which are proprietary to our own operation. Player does not have a full OS required for emulation of Unix functions such as NTFS formatting. This is a limitation of the design of the player and can't be adjusted through a future firmware release.

The way around this limitation is to use DLNA streaming. Your host device is responsible for filesystem compatibility - Nathaniel Plain

Of course, formatting and writing NTFS is not easy, but simply reading an already existing NTFS can not be very hard...
What DLNA-servers have you tested against? I already have MediaTomb configured (used to stream to an Archos-5 player as well as to a Windows computer), but my Sony Bravia TV, for example, refuses to work with it... Will your devices fare any better?
Thanks for the quick response. Mikhail
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